Wednesday, November 08, 2006

Controversial Religious Summer Camp Closed

Organizers of an evangelical summer camp for children featured in the documentary "Jesus Camp" are discontinuing the camp because of negative reaction sparked by the film and recent vandalism at the camp site in Devils Lake, North Dakota.


And as if to leave things open for a sequal,

"We have decided to hold different activities in future," Pentecostal pastor and camp organizer Becky Fischer told Reuters.


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25 comments:

Jack said...

lol, I havent seen the film, but i'll have to look now.

http://www.psp-uk.net
Jack

John said...

I've seen it, freaky camp.

Anonymous said...

okay where are the freaking comments on this????

those people are FREAKING NUTZ
if i knew people like this in real life i would STOP knowing them.
they put an effigy to george bush and PRAYED TO IT.
HAVEN'T THEY HEARD THEY AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE IDOL WORSHIPPING????? WHAT KIND OF IMPRESSION DOES THAT MAKE ON THE YOUNG ONES?

stupid retards. this country is so screwed

Anonymous said...

thank god that camp got closed. power to the vandalizers and the people who aren't blinded by religious rhetoric from so called "pastors"

Anonymous said...

perhaps they were only praying "for" bush... not "to" bush. Lord knows Bush could use some prayer right now haha.

Not saying the movie is legit, because I haven't seen it yet, but we should know by know that deceptive editing, can make any situation look shady i.e. all of FOX news broadcasts.

Anonymous said...

They should have know better than to have the Jesus camp "site" at Devils lake!

Anonymous said...

If you haven't seen the movie, you really shouldn't be commenting.

The camp was insane, full blown. brain washing children, telling them that to die for your religion is an honor....this all sounds awfully familiar for some odd reason.

I was hoping it'd be closed down once this movie was out. And as far as "deceptive editing" (not that I'm arguing about Fox) HELL NO. You'd have to watch the movie to understand....

Anonymous said...

'thank god that camp got closed. power to the vandalizers and the people who aren't blinded by religious rhetoric from so called "pastors"'

thank god the abortion clinic got closed. power to the bomber and the people who aren't blinded by democratic rhetoric from so called "doctors"

Just holding up the mirror to you.

Anonymous said...

'thank god that camp got closed. power to the vandalizers and the people who aren't blinded by religious rhetoric from so called "pastors"'

thank god the abortion clinic got closed. power to the bomber and the people who aren't blinded by democratic rhetoric from so called "doctors"'


Leave it to an idiot to compare a man of science (doctor) to a man of faith (pastor) and then try to imply that they are somehow equal.

No mirror image that I can see.

Anonymous said...

^^ you idiot ^^

Allyson said...

A man of science and a man of faith not equal? I am a hard and fast athiest, and I think that both professions are equally worthwhile to their respective communities and the greater world. And guess what? They can both be equally corrupt as well. No, I don't believe in god, but there are some religious people who choose not to partake in modern medicine. That does not make them idiots.

Anonymous said...

no matter what one belives.

the fact that these children are being taught to DIE FOR THEIR RELIGION is wrong.

radical muslim sects teach their youth the same thing. what happened? 9/11...

so do 2 wrongs make a right?

Anonymous said...

There's a difference in what this pastor was teaching and what the terrorists/muslims teach. What this pastor was teaching was if you are martyred/killed by someone else for just preaching/teaching about your faith, it is an honor to God. What the Muslims are teaching is that if you go to war for God, kill others, kill yourself and others in the name of God, then there is honor in that. One side is getting killed for just talking about something, the other side is saying if you die and kill others at the same time you will be rewarded. I feel it is COMPLETELY different teaching. If I go to a Muslim country and I'm killed for talking about Jesus, that's totally different than what happened at 911.

Anonymous said...

To die for ones religion is different than killing for ones religion.

To die for a strong idea is not negative in the least. Without the Protestant Reformation and people willing to die for their beliefs back then, the world would never have seen other movements such as the American Revolution.

ONCE AGAIN, to die for a religious idea is not the same as killing for a religious idea. T

Anonymous said...

"" 'thank god that camp got closed. power to the vandalizers and the people who aren't blinded by religious rhetoric from so called "pastors"'

thank god the abortion clinic got closed. power to the bomber and the people who aren't blinded by democratic rhetoric from so called "doctors" ""

Just holding up the mirror to you.

Wow, if that doesn't twist and pervert reality, I don't know what does. Sorry, but abortion clinics do not quite equate to forcing your religion and religious views on other people by threat of violence or actual acts of violence.

Considering the "faithful" through out history have shown a far greater penchent for "unjust" killing simply because someone had different views that were deemed "heretic" or "sinful" really doesn't leave them any room at all to tell anyone they are sinful for anything. Killing abortion doctors and threatening them with violence is just one of the violent actions of hypocrits who can't even follow their own "laws".

Anonymous said...

A bunch of these comments are simply people trying to justify their own beliefs by twisting the beliefs of others into something they are not.

Anonymous said...

I do believe in God, and grew up going to "Jesus Camps" every summer. They are some of the best memories of my life, hands down. I pray to this day,everyday. In fact, I'm praying for a bunch of y'all. :):)
It's a beautiful day, the birds are singing. God is speaking through some these messages, may both positive and negative feedback left by all touch someones heart somewhere. May the truth and love that can only be experienced through a personal relationship with Christ be spread throughout the world. This world needs it now. In 2005, around the world, 171,000 christians were martyred for "being christian" Remember, if you're not witnessing for God and Jesus, you're still witnessing.
May God be with you all, Peace.

And no, I wouldn't go out and kill anyone for what I believe. One of the ten commandments is "thou shalt not kill". I would however be honored if martyred for Jesus name.

Anonymous said...

I am glad someone brought out the distinction between dying because of a belief and killing because of a belief. HUGE difference.

I am a strong Christian, but I wholeheartedly disagree with all that I have heard about this camp. Threatening someone with violence because they don't believe the same thing as you do? How utterly ridiculous! That goes against all basic teachings of Christianity.

People see a very small group of so-called Christians acting like this, and then they generalize about all Christians. It's quite frustrating. Sure, I do not agree with abortion, but I'm not going to try and stop a woman that has made a decision to do so, let alone threaten her with violence. How disgusting!

I am personally offended that this camp of individuals call themselves Christians when they are blatantly going against basic Christian/Biblical teachings. The way I see it, I may not agree with someone on his/her decisions regarding the way they live, but I am not going to tell them they are wrong or try to stop them from doing what they wish. I am willing to share my beliefs (and reasons for those beliefs) with people that are sincerely interested, but I will not throw my beliefs in other peoples' face and try to force them to accept them. Just thought I'd throw that in there before getting flamed.

Anonymous said...

I haven't been to this camp before, but I have met some of the people in the movie. In fact, I stayed with them over the summer. We had a bus with a worship set (drums, keyboard, guitars, mic's, etc) that we drove around the entire country (we made stops and led worship nights in churches nationwide) with teams switching in and out to keep it going all of the time. We worshiped God a lot. We prayed to God a lot. I don't see anything "nuts" about either of those things.

To those of you who object to a Christian accepting the possibility of dying for their faith: Jesus died because of His faith. Why wouldn't a Christian do the same?

"Leave it to an idiot to compare a man of science (doctor) to a man of faith (pastor) and then try to imply that they are somehow equal."

Fact: Atheist Soviet Union killed +35,000,000 Christians during its existance.
Fact: Jesus never killed anybody.

Not that science is a bad thing; I myself am triple majoring in Computer Science, Electrical Engineering, and Computer Engineering.

Just, please, never presume to place your "science" above another man's faith.

Anonymous said...

Right on brothah. I haven't seen the film, but all the camps I ever went to I was never threatened with any kind of violence. It was all about LOVE. The love of Jesus.

Anonymous said...

Ah, bigotry. What a nice aroma it leaves in the air... unlike those intolerent Christians of course.

tuxracer said...

"Fact: Jesus never killed anybody."

My imaginary friend never killed anyone either...

Anonymous said...

Imaginary friend?

Surely you would not attempt to discredit thousands of years of well preserved documents and history via a single documentary...

Heck, even Muslims, Buddhists, and Jews acknowledge Jesus lived on Earth (they just don't regard him as the Son of God).

Not that I agree with evolution, but isn't you trying to "disprove" a widely accepted fact (Christ existing) with a single documentary a bit like that guy who tried to "disprove" evolution with a single banana?

tuxracer said...

Thousands of years of preserved documents and "history"?

This is one of my biggest problems with most theists. It is as though the mere passage of time has given validity to these documents. Surely, you would not attempt to discredit the thousands of years of preserved documents of Zeus, Ra (Egyptian sun god), etc..

Yes, I would. Because the mere passage of time only goes to show that these are stories people like, not that they are necessarily historically accurate (which this film discredits).

I mean at least three decades after the death of Jesus all of these stories were written. They were popular stories, sure, but when the first, first hand account of a person's life is written via word of mouth three decades after this persons death I call the validity of those stories as a historical document into question.

I do not accept the idea that mere passage of time makes the documents more valid. For our sake that logic is not often applied to any other documents. Or you might be "bled" next time you head to the E.R. for a medical emergency.

Jack said...

"Fact: Jesus never killed anybody."

but religious intolerance as a result of belief in jesus has.

how many people have christians killed in the name of their religion?

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."